Brian is the NextGen Pastor of Battle Creek Church in Broken Arrow OK. Brian leads a multi-site student and kids ministry that reaches thousands of kids and students every week.

Healthy systems create healthy leaders. What do unhealthy systems create? In this episode, I sat down with SSM founder Landon Reynolds and had an open and honest conversation about the current leadership-producing system in the church today. Are we creating healthy leaders? Is the current system setting up young pastors to fail? If so, how do we escape that system and protect the next generation of young pastors and leaders? If you are ready to end the cycle of unhealthy leadership, then this episode is for you!